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Re: Hunters in 5.4
« Reply #50 on: 10/08/13, 12:58 AM »
Current 25M (normal) SV vs. BM as of Oct 8th


Immersius:  SV: 266K///BM: 329K

Fallen Protectors:  SV: 328K///BM: 408K

Norushen:  SV: 356K ///BM: 341K

Sha of Pride:  SV: 388K///BM: 354K

Galakras:  SV: 384K ///BM: 384K

Iron Juggernaught:  SV: 327K///BM: 341K

Kor'kron Dark Shaman:  SV: 403K///BM: 435K

General Nazgrim:  SV: 400K///BM: 397K

Malkoroak:  SV: 344K ///BM: 380K

Spoils of Pandaria:  SV: 291K///BM: 288K

Thok the Bloodthirsty:  SV: 349K///BM: 345K

Siegcrafter Blackfuse:  SV: 332K///BM: 354K

Paragons of the Klaxxi:  SV: 390K///BM: 450K

Garrosh Hellscream:  SV: 348K///BM: 360K
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Re: Hunters in 5.4
« Reply #51 on: 10/08/13, 05:54 AM »
Where'd you get the numbers from?

Also, thinking of trying out blink strikes this week, thoughts?

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Re: Hunters in 5.4
« Reply #53 on: 10/08/13, 07:47 PM »
So they're top parses? Could be a bit skewed due to BM being better in ToT and more people just sticking with what they know going into Siege.

And yeah, top 10 parses on most fights consist of either blink strikes or crows so it seems they're pretty even, and blink strikes is passive and doesn't cost 60 fucking focus so it might be less annoying.

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Re: Hunters
« Reply #54 on: 12/06/13, 04:01 PM »
So I'm going to race change, since undead is fucking useless.

Heres the stats:

Orc: 333974.42 (Sim DPS with my current gear)
Bonus: Blood Fury 2 Min CD
Increases attack power by 4514. Lasts 15 sec.
1% Exp (useless in WoD)
Your pet does 2% more damage

Troll: 332384.06 (Sim DPS with my current gear)
Bonus: Beserking 3 Min CD
Increases your melee, ranged, and spell haste by 20% for 10 sec.
Do 5% more damage against Beast's


I'm thinking orc might be the best but idk, opinions??
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Re: Hunters
« Reply #55 on: 12/06/13, 04:38 PM »
Don't forget dat pet damage as orc
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Re: Hunters
« Reply #56 on: 12/06/13, 04:54 PM »
Don't forget dat pet damage as orc

I modified it to show everything.

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Re: Hunters
« Reply #57 on: 12/06/13, 04:58 PM »
I modified it to show everything.

So I'm going to race change, since undead is fucking useless.

Heres the stats:

Orc: 333974.42 (Sim DPS with my current gear)
5% Damage Vs. Beasts

Troll: 332384.06 (Sim DPS with my current gear)
2% more pet damage

Way to confuse people, scum <3
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Re: Hunters
« Reply #58 on: 12/06/13, 05:31 PM »
I've a feeling they're going to change the racials next expansion, since dodge, hit and expertise racials will be useless.

So in that case, Troll.

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Re: Hunters
« Reply #59 on: 12/07/13, 12:25 AM »
So I'm going to race change, since undead is fucking useless.

Heres the stats:

Orc: 333974.42 (Sim DPS with my current gear)
Bonus: Blood Fury 2 Min CD
Increases attack power by 4514. Lasts 15 sec.
1% Exp (useless in WoD)
Your pet does 2% more damage

Troll: 332384.06 (Sim DPS with my current gear)
Bonus: Beserking 3 Min CD
Increases your melee, ranged, and spell haste by 20% for 10 sec.
Do 5% more damage against Beast's


I'm thinking orc might be the best but idk, opinions??

anyone else?

Lets factor this in, since this is a possible best lvl 100 talent, it does make orc less useful (when not playing BM; and that being said MM might have a big return in WoD being completely useless for the entirety of MoP)


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Re: Hunters
« Reply #60 on: 12/07/13, 12:30 AM »
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Re: Hunters
« Reply #61 on: 12/07/13, 12:47 AM »
you have pet damage and beastslaying reversed dumbass.

bet you 50 bucks they'll change racials in next expansion, at least for exp/hit/dodge/parry races

so just be a troll because troll master race

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Re: Hunters
« Reply #62 on: 12/11/13, 01:25 AM »
Saw this and immediately thought of our hunters:

You want to burst them instead of having to stack DP via FoK with Ass!

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Re: Hunters
« Reply #63 on: 07/10/16, 03:12 AM »
It's looking as though the following talent setups will be optimal for PTR/early legion play.

Beast Mastery: http://beta.wowdb.com/talent-calculator#EhkN (Subbing barrage in for AmoC for multitarget 3+)

Marksmanship: http://beta.wowdb.com/talent-calculator#CxcO (1-2 target) - LnL will be superior after the HFC tier set granting instant aimed shot to every cast becomes obsolete, while using current 4pc, TA is better.
                       http://beta.wowdb.com/talent-calculator#GhcO (pulls slightly ahead for AoE)

Survival: http://beta.wowdb.com/talent-calculator#Ez4P (Single target) - Way of the Mok'nathal is absolutely brutal                     to maintain, I found better results with personal dummy testing using throwing axes, but WotM sims a great deal higher with perfect maintenance. 

              http://beta.wowdb.com/talent-calculator#EioP (Sustained AoE)
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Re: Hunters
« Reply #64 on: 08/25/16, 04:32 AM »
I know a lot of our hunters are leaving the class, but I noticed blizzard was requesting targeted feedback about issues with the current iteration of the hunter specs, so I made my first post on the blizzard forums in years to put in my 2 cents. Interested to see if its agreed with by our hunters, or if they have other issues I didn't think of.

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748844917?page=15#post-289

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Re: Hunters
« Reply #65 on: 09/02/16, 10:38 AM »
Actually read it, cause bored at work. I mostly agree.

All specs feel their damage varies highly based on key RNG procs; maybe it's like that on other classes too.
* MM feels confusing at times due to managing marks -- you're either waiting idle cause nothing's happening, or scrambling to do too much at once when something does happen.
* BM feels like it's missing 2 or 3 skills as I press buttons during fights. The spec hasn't ever really been about engaging play though, imo.
* SV is the most fun and engaging to me, though ironically it doesn't feel to survivable, and mobility kinda sucks. WotM talent build shares a resource management unpleasantness similar to MM.

Overall, it sounds to me like our hunter(s) [?] don't have an excuse to be fuckin up anymore, since the one raiding-approved spec requires management of all of like 2-3 buttons now.  JustDance2