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Good Books Thread
« on: 01/31/11, 03:25 PM »


      If you've got your own to add, feel free; the more the better.  The goal of this thread is to compile a list for anyone that wants to read something new in a familiar genre, or try out a new genre.




      Note:  Now that the website is running fairly well, I figured I'd put this up.  This is just a copy of what was on the Tavern.  If you want to add stuff, add it here.  Any and all literary discussion is also welcome.




  •          The catagories, in order, to make this list more usable.  To find what you want, simply search for one of these:

  •          Adventure, Comedy, Coming of Age, Current Issues, Detective Fiction, Epic, Fiction, Gothic, High Fantasy, History, Historical Fiction, Nonfiction, Other (multi-genre, unclear genre), Romance, Satire, Science Fiction, Philosophy, Politics / Law, Religion (mostly philosophy of), Poetry (listed by author)









         The Count of Monte Cristo - Alexandre Dumas (Sab)




         The Three Musketeers - Alexandre Dumas (Sab)




         The Four Feathers - A.E.W. Mason (Sab)




         The Leatherstocking Tales (particularly The Last of Mohicans) - James Fenimore Cooper (Sab)




         The Virginian - Owen Wister (western) (Sab)













         Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen ('ves)


         - Even men can enjoy this novel, believe me




         The Canterbury Tales - Geoffrey Chaucer ('ves)


         - A series of stories: click here for more info




         Hitchhikers Guide the the Galaxy - Douglas Adams (Nuit)




         I AM AMERICA AND SO CAN YOU - Stephen Colbert (Zeb)


         - I don't know if this is actually worth your time, but Zeb said it was good.  Blame him! D:




         Crooked Little Vein - Warren Ellis (Ziang)


         - Twisted novel, you've been warned!




         I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell - Tucker Max (Ziang)







         Coming of Age:




         Fallen Angels by Walter Dean Meyers ('ves)


         - Historical Fiction



         A Separate Peace by John Knowles ('ves)


         - Tragedy



         Bless Me, Ultima by Rudolfo Anaya ('ves)


         A Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Newton Peck












            Current issues:




            The FairTax Book - Neal Boortz and John Linder  (Sab)




            FairTax: The Truth - Neal Boortz and John Linder (Sab)





               Fiasco & (to a lesser extent) The Gamble - Thomas E. Ricks (Aiza)


               -> A pretty interesting account of what went wrong in Iraq. And in the sequel, how it was fixed with Patraeus.










            Detective Fiction:




            The Philip Marlowe novels and short stories by Raymond Chandler (e.g.The Big Sleep) (Sab)




            Various short stories by Edgar Allan Poe (e.g. The Murders in the Rue Morgue) (Sab)












         Beowulf (Nuit)




         The Iliad & The Odyssey - Homer (Nuit)




         The Divine Comedy Dante Alighier (Nuit)




         Paradise Lost - John Milton (Nuit)




         Epic of Gilgamesh (Nuit)




         Aeneid - Virgil (Nuit)




         Sir Gawain and the Green Knight - the "Gawain Poet", name unknown (Nuit)




         Metamorphoss - Ovid (Nuit)




         One Thousand and One Nights (Arabian Nights) (Nuit)


         - A series of short stories and tales












             Les Miserables - Victor Hugo ('ves)




             I Can Read With My Eyes Shut! - Dr. Seuss ('ves)




            The Saga of Darren Shan - Darren Shan (Demetheius)




            Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand (Moi)




            The Fountainhead - Ayn Rand (Sab)




            We the Living - Ayn Rand (Sab)




            War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy (Moi)




            20,000 Leagues Under the Sea - Jules Verne




            The God of Small Things - Arundhati Roy (Nuit)




            Anything by Flannery O'Connor (Nuit)


            - Specific titles to start with, Nuit?




            The Lovely Bones - Alice Sebold (Nuit)




            Life & Times of Michael K - J.M. Coetzee (Nuit)




            To the Lighthouse - Virgina Wolf (Nuit)




            Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad (Nuit)




            Tender is the Night - F. Scott Fitzgerald (Nuit)




            The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald (Nuit)




            Moby Dick - Herman Melville (Nuit)




            All Quiet on the Western Front - Erich Maria Remarque (Nuit)


            -  Wheels: It is kind of a mix of nonfiction and fiction.  It is the author's account of his experience during WWI told through a fictional character he creates.  It isn't a book about bravery or heroes, but of emotional trauma and struggling to survive in a war where soldiers are constantly being thrown against machine gun fire and artillery.  Don't expect to pick it up and it to read like an epic war novel, it is more about the psychological condition of the infantry.




            As I Lay Dying - William Faulkner (Nuit)




            The Sound and the Fury - William Faulkner (Nuit)




            Beloved            -Toni Morrison (Nuit)




            Jazz                  -Toni Morrison (Nuit)




            A Farewell to Arms    -Ernest Hemingway (Nuit)




            The Old Man and the Sea    -Ernest Hemingway (Nuit)




            The Adventures of Huck Finn         -Mark Twain (Nuit)




            The Adventures of Tom Sawyer    -Mark Twain (Nuit)




            Gulliver's Travels    -Johnathan Swift (Nuit)




            Great Expectations    -Charles Dickens (Nuit)




            A Tale of Two Cities    -Charles Dickens (Nuit)




            Hatchet    -Gary Paulsen (Nuit)




            Robinson Crusoe    -Daniel Defoe (Nuit)




            The Stranger    -Albert Camus (Nuit)




            Ivanhoe    -Walter Scott (Nuit)




            Rob Roy    -Walter Scott (Nuit)




            A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole (gmdupuy)





               Lord of the Flies - William Golding (Sab)




               The Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck (Sab)




               Animal Farm - George Orwell (Sab)




               1984 - George Orwell (Sab)




               Aesop's Fables (Sab)




               Treasure Island -  Robert Louis Stevenson (Ace)


               Charlotte's Web - E.b White  (Ace)


               The Giving Tree - Shel Silverstein (Ace)




               A Density of Souls - Christopher Rice ('ves)




               Snow Garden - Christopher Rice ('ves)




               The Shipping News - E. Annie Proulx ('ves)




               Fight Club - Chuck Palahniuk (Zeb)


               - See also: Lullaby, Invisible Monster, Survivor


               - Zeb: ...it's still wildly addictive in a "Holy shit, how am I still reading this?!" kind of way. Some of it is pretty graphic, some of it is quite appaling. Somehow he manages to keep you hooked onto the story no matter how awkward, disgusting and downright unpleasant it gets.




               Diary - Chuck Palahniuk (Proob)




               Diary - [/i]Chuck Palahniuk (Proob)




               American Psycho - Brett Easton Ellis (Proob)




               The Informers - [/i]Brett Easton Ellis (Proob)




               Phantastes by George MacDonald (Mags)















               The Phantom of the Opera  - Gaston Leroux (Sab)




               Frankenstein - Mary Shelley (Sab)




               The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Robert Louis Stevenson (Sab)




               Dracula - Bram Stoker (Sab)




               The Vampire Chronicles - Anne Rice (Sab)








            High Fantasy:




            - Dark Elf trilogy -> Icewind Dale trilogy -> Legacy of the Drow tetralogy -> Paths of Darkness series -> Hunter's Blades trilogy -> The Sellswords (optional) -> Transitions


            - The above is an agreed upon order for these books.  The Sellswords focuses on a different main character, but is entertaining nonetheless.




            George R. R. Martin's "Song of Fire and Ice" series (thanks Morafym)




            The Lies of Locke Lamora - Scott Lynch (Morafym again D:)




            The Dragonlance series - Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman (thanks 'ves)


            -  The Chronicles Trilogy (Dragons of an Autumn Twilight, Dragons of a Winter's Night, Dragons of a Spring Dawning)

            -  Dragonlance Legends (Time of the Twins, War of the Twins, Test of the Twins - 'ves's favorite)

            -  The Second Generation

            -  Dragons of a Summer Flame

            -  The War of Souls (
Dragons of a Fallen Sun, Dragons of a Lost Star, Dragons of a Vanished Moon)

            -  The Dark Disciple Trilogy (Amber and Ashes, Amber and Iron, Amber and Blood)


            -  The Lost Chronicles Trilogy (Dragons of the Dwarven Depths, Dragons of the Highlord Skies, Dragons of the Hourglass Mage)




            The Deathgate Cycle - Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman (Zeb, raising 'ves)


            - Dragon Wing -> Elven Star -> Fire Sea -> Serpent Mage -> The Hand of Chaos -> Into the Labyrinth -> The Seventh Gate




            Wheel of Time series - Robert Jordan (Moi)




            Sovereign Stone - Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman ('ves, raising Zeb)


            - Well of Darkness -> Guardians of the Lost -> Journey into the Void




            The Hobbit + Lord of the Rings Trilogy - J.R.R Tolkien (Nuit)


            - I put these together because I am of the opinion that one should read The Hobbit before the Trilogy itself, but that is up to the reader




            Earthsea Saga - Ursula K. Le Guin (Nuit)




            The Soulforge - Margaret Weis (Nuit)




            Brothers in Arms - Margaret Weis & Don Perrin (Nuit)




            The Legend of Huma (part of the Heroes set) - Richard A. Knaack (Nuit)




            The Irda (part of Lost Histories set) - Linda P. Baker (Nuit)




            Fistandantilus Reborn (part of the Lost Legends - Douglas Niles (Nuit)




            The Darksword Trilogy - Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman (Zeb, wishing he was as cool as 'ves)


            - Forging the Darksword -> Doom of the Darksword -> Triumph of the Darksword




            The First Law Trilogy - Joe Abercrombie (Zeb)



               - The Blade Itself -> Before They Are Hanged -> Last Argument of Kings














            The Discoverers - Daniel Boorstin (Moi)




            The Creators - Daniel Boorstin (Moi)




            Founding Brothers - Joseph Ellis (Sab)





               Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World - Jack Weatherford (Aiza)


               -> Basically a narritive that tries to fill out a lot of the gaps in the historical record.










            Historical Fiction:





               Night - Elie Weisel (Cie)





                  East of Eden - John Steinbeck (Rad)














               Freakonomics/SuperFreakonomics - Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner (Aiza)


               -> Can't help but love these as an Economics student. Pretty light-hearted, easy to get into, and most importantly fun way of looking through economic analysis, even if some of their results are questionable. Aren't the best of economic conclusions like that though?





            Into Thin Air - Jon Krakauer (Wheels)




            Harem Years: Memoirs of an Egyptian Feminist - Huda Shaarawi and translated by Margot Badran (Ace)




            Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers - Mary Roach (Moi)


            - Funny and apparently graphic




            American Shaolin - Matthew Polly (Nuit)




            Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and Bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001 (Rad)


            - I'm a bit surprised Rad would contribute to this thread, but this sounds like a good one.


            - Rad: It's about the CIA's involvement in the Mujahadeen resistance against the Soviets in Afghanistan. It's insightful and about as "exciting" as a non-fiction (non-biographical) book can get.




            Killing Bin Laden - Dalton Fury




            Linked: The New Science of Networks - Albert-Laszlo Barabasi












               Other (multi-genre, unclear genre):




               Good Omens - Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman (thanks Zeb)




               Oryx and Crake - Margaret Atwood


               - Dystopian scifi + satire + others; a very odd book but will certainly make you think




               Super System: A Course in Power Poker - Doyle Brunson (Ace)


               48 Laws of Power - Robert Greene (Ace)




               Anything by H.P. Lovecraft (Nuit)


               - Any specific or particularly good ones?




               Anything by Ray Bradbury (Nuit)


               - Fahrenheit 451 is a well known example of his work


               - Dandelion Wine (Moi)




               Any short story by Richard Matheson (Sab)


               - Any specific or particularly good ones?















               Bid Time Return (aka Somewhere in Time) - Richard Matheson (Sab)




               What Dreams May Come - Richard Matheson (Sab)




               Where the Heart Is - Billie Letts ('ves)












            Discworld novels - Terry Pratchet


            - Can start pretty much anywhere, but Small Gods and Pyramids are good ones.




            Lamb - Christopher Moore (thanks Morafym)


            - Morafym - it's sacreligeous, I guess. It's about Jesus and his best friend growing up




            Catch 22 - Joseph Heller




            The Sheriff of Yrnameer - Michael Reubens (Zeb)


            - Zeb describes this novel as in the same vein as Tery Pratchett's work, no small commendation.




            A Modest Proposal - Jonathon Swift (Nuit)









            Science Fiction:


            Snow Crash - Neil Stephenson (thanks Morafym)


            - Audiobook is highly recommended




            Crystal Rain - Tobias Buckell  (thanks Morafym)


            - Somewhat obscure author, something about a hook...




            William Gibson novels  (thanks Mags)


            - Neuromancer -> Count Zero -> Mona Lisa Overdrive -> Idoru


            - and many others




            Dune - Frank Herbert (thanks Wheels)




            Ender's series - Orson Scott Card (Nuit + Cie)


            - Ender focus:


                - Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, Children of the Mind, A War of Gifts, Ender in Exile


            Bean focus:


                - Ender's Shadow, Shadow of the Hegemon, Shadow Puppets, Shadow of the Giant





               Glory Road - Robert A. Heinlein (Sab)




               Starship Troopers - Heinlein (Sab)




               The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Heinlein (Sab)




               Brave New World - Aldous Huxley (Sab)




               Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut (Cie)












                  Philosophy: (Nuitttt)




                  An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding    -David Hume




                  Discourse on the Method    -Rene Descartes




                  An Essay Concerning Human Understanding    -John Locke




                  pretty much anything by Plato




                  On Liberty    - John Stuart Mill




                  Utilitarinism    -John Stuart Mill




                  Critique of Pure Reason    -Immanuel Kant




                  Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus    -Ludwig Wittgenstein




                  anything and everything by Jacques Derrida




                  The Souls of Black Folk    - W.E.B. Du Bois




                  anything by Richard Rorty




                  anything by Jean-Jacques Rousseau




                  anything by Thomas Nagel




                  anything by Jacques Lacan ('ves, he's Frued 2.0, but EXTREMELY difficult to read)




                  Corpus Aristotelicum    -Aristotle




                  Art of War - Sun Tzu (Ace)




                  The Virtue of Selfishness - Ayn Rand (Sab)




                  Return of the Primitive - Ayn Rand (Sab)




                  The Prince - Niccolo Machiavelli (Sab)




                  Politics - Aristotle (Sab)






                  Politics / Law:




                  Storm Center: The Supreme Court in American Politics - David M. O'Brien (Sab)











                  Religion (mostly philosophy of): (Nuit)




                  Summa Theoloigal    -Thomas Aquinas


                  anything by Martin Luther


                  anything by John Calvin


                  anything by John Hick


                  Blaise Pascall


                  Jesus and Judasim    -E.P. Sanders











                  Poetry (listed by author): (the Nuitmachine)




                  Maya Angelou


                  Matthew Arnold


                  William Blake


                  Ann Bradstreet


                  Robert Browning


                  Lord Byron


                  Lewis Carroll


                  Samuel Coleridge


                  E.E. Cummings


                  Emily Dickinson


                  John Donne


                  T.S Eliot


                  Ralph Waldo Emerson


                  Robert Frost


                  Thomas Hardy


                  Langston Hughes


                  John Keats


                  John Milton


                  Edgar Lee Masters


                  Christopher Marlowe


                  Andrew Marvell


                  Edgar Allen Poe


                  Sylvia Plath


                  Alexander Pope


                  Carl Sandburg


                  Walter Scott


                  William Shakespeare


                  Percy Bysshe Shelly


                  Shel Silverstein


                  Robert Louis Stevenson


                  Alfred, Lord Tennyson


                  Walt Whitman


                  William Carlos Williams


                  William Wordsworth


                  Oscar Wilde


                  William Butler Yeats












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Re: Good Books Thread
« Reply #1 on: 05/17/10, 03:11 AM »

   My favorites lately (Kind of hard to read recreationally as a student) not on the list:

   Historical: Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World -Jack Weatherford

   Basically a narritive that tries to fill out a lot of the gaps in the historical record.

   Non-Fiction/Current Issue: Fiasco & (to a lesser extent) The Gamble -Thomas E. Ricks

   A pretty interesting account of what went wrong in Iraq. And in the sequel, how it was fixed with Patraeus.

   Non-Fiction: Freakonomics/SuperFreakonomics -Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner

   Can't help but love these as an Economics student. Pretty light-hearted, easy to get into, and most importantly fun way of looking through economic analysis, even if some of their results are questionable. Aren't the best of economic conclusions like that though?

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Re: Good Books Thread
« Reply #2 on: 05/27/10, 03:36 PM »

   Updated.  Sorry Aiza, I missed your post.

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Re: Good Books Thread
« Reply #3 on: 06/04/10, 03:42 PM »
I can't believe "The Alchemist," by Paulo Coelho isn't up there yet.  :D

Off the top of my head, another good one is "The Da Vinci Code," by Dan Brown.  

I'm currently re-reading Alice in Wonderland, because my aunt is too (just for fun), and I am thoroughly enjoying it.  It brings back memories of being a curious kid.  :)

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Re: Good Books Thread
« Reply #4 on: 01/31/11, 10:54 AM »
Chuck Palahniuk; Haunted, Diary
Brett Easton Ellis; American Psycho, The Informers

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Re: Good Books Thread
« Reply #5 on: 01/31/11, 12:23 PM »

   I recently read (listened to, Audible unabridged version) Pratchett's "I Shall Wear Midnight".  It's another discworld novel.  Although the witch series have been termed "young reader" books this one is noticeably darker than the previous ones.  The themes are a timely commentary on today's events without being preachy.  It also has the Nac Mac Feegles to keep things lighthearted.  If you're into the Discworld series at all this one's a great read.


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Re: Good Books Thread
« Reply #6 on: 01/31/11, 03:27 PM »

   Pratchett is genius.  I haven't read the witch series yet, but I can't remember why that is.

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Re: Good Books Thread
« Reply #7 on: 02/02/11, 01:43 AM »

   Two Books i would recommend (couple of my all time faves)

   "Lamb, or the Gospel according to Biff Christs childhood pal": Christopher Moore

   "Fluke, or i know why the great white whale sings": same 


   Good reads and hilarious look at life/history.

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Re: Good Books Thread
« Reply #8 on: 03/25/11, 11:49 PM »

   This is an awesome thread, thanks for making it. :D


   My contribution:

   Historical Fiction:

   The Pillars of the Earth (and it's sequel, World Without End) by Ken Follett.  The first one is set back in the 1100's and is set around England.  It follows the lives of this group of people, and how all their lives interact with each other as they try to rebuild this cathedral.  While that small summary may make it sound...boring, I promise you it's not.  It's a long, detailed, fantastic book that had me hooked from the first paragraph.  It's sequel, World Without End takes place around the 1300's.  New characters, some who are related to those of the first book, same idea with everyones lives mixing with each other, but not focused on rebuilding a cathedral.


   Another book that I would recommend by Ken Follett is The Fall of Giants, which is also a historical novel.  This one is part of a trilogy (the two other books haven't been written yet), and the first book focuses on WWI.

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Re: Good Books Thread
« Reply #9 on: 03/26/11, 02:04 PM »

   Would recommend a lot by Stephen King, but particularly the Dark Tower series. Could go under Adventure or Fiction, but Fiction's probably safer.

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